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Ne znam da li postoji tema, ali naletela sam na neke stvarcice iz njegove nove knjige koja ce biti izdata 28. oktobra ove godine. Cover jos nije izasao (ovo gore je fan made mislim), knjiga ce imati oko 350 strana i po njegovim recima ce biti puna prelepih iliustracija i nekih  informacija koje nismo znali. Pre-order cena je oko 30 evra, ali mislim da ce da se isplati Smile 

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This lavishly illustrated volume is a comprehensive history of the Seven Kingdoms, providing vividly constructed accounts of the epic battles, bitter rivalries, and daring rebellions that lead to the events of A Song of Ice and Fire and HBO’s Game of Thrones. In a collaboration that’s been years in the making, Martin has teamed with Elio M. García, Jr., and Linda Antonsson, the founders of the renowned fan site Westeros.org—perhaps the only people who know this world almost as well as its visionary creator.

Collected here is all the accumulated knowledge, scholarly speculation, and inherited folk tales of maesters and septons, maegi and singers. It is a chronicle which stretches from the Dawn Age to the Age of Heroes; from the Coming of the First Men to the arrival of Aegon the Conqueror; from Aegon’s establishment of the Iron Throne to Robert’s Rebellion and the fall of the Mad King, Aerys II Targaryen, which has set into motion the “present-day” struggles of the Starks, Lannisters, Baratheons, and Targaryens. The definitive companion piece to George R. R. Martin’s dazzlingly conceived universe, The World of Ice and Fire is indeed proof that the pen is mightier than a storm of swords.
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AEGON’S CONQUEST
The maesters of the Citadel who keep the histories of Westeros have used Aegon’s Conquest as their touchstone for the past three hundred years. Birth, deaths, battles, and other events are dated either AC (After the Conquest) or BC (Before the Conquest).
True scholars know that such dating is far from precise. Aegon Targaryen’s conquest of the Seven Kingdoms did not take place in a single day. More than two years passed between Aegon’s landing and his Oldtown coronation . . . and even then the Conquest remained incomplete since Dorne remained unsubdued. Sporadic attempts to bring the Dornishmen into the realm continued all through King Aegon’s reign and well into the reigns of his sons, making it impossible to fix a precise end date for the Wars of Conquest.
Even the start date is a matter of some misconception.  Many assume, wrongly, that the reign of King Aegon I Targaryen began on the day he landed at the mouth of the Blackwater Rush, beneath the three hills where the city of King’s Landing eventually stood. Not so. The day of Aegon’s Landing was celebrated by the king and his descendants, but the Conqueror actually dated the start of his reign from the day he was crowned and anointed in the Starry Sept of Oldtown by the High Septon of the Faith. This coronation took place two years after Aegon’s Landing, well after all three of the major battles of the Wars of Conquest had been fought and won. Thus it can be seen that most of Aegon’s actual conquering took place from 2-1 BC, Before the Conquest.
The Targaryens were of pure Valyrian blood, dragonlords of ancient lineage. Twelve years before the Doom of Valyria (114 BC), Aenar Targaryen sold his holdings in the Freehold and the Lands of the Long Summer and moved with all his wives, wealth, slaves, dragons, siblings, kin, and children to Dragonstone, a bleak island citadel beneath a smoking mountain in the narrow sea.
At its apex Valyria was the greatest city in the known world, the center of civilization. Within its shining walls, twoscore rival houses vied for power and glory in court and council, rising and falling in an endless, subtle, oft-savage struggle for dominance. The Targaryens were far from the most powerful of the dragonlords, and their rivals saw their flight to Dragonstone as an act of surrender, as cowardice. But Lord Aenar’s maiden daughter Daenys, known forever afterward as Daenys the Dreamer, had foreseen the destruction of Valyria by fire. And when the Doom came twelve years later, the Targaryens were the only dragonlords to survive.
Dragonstone had been the westernmost outpost of Valyrian power for two centuries. Its location athwart the Gullet gave its lords a stranglehold on Blackwater Bay, and enabled both the Targaryens and their close allies, the Velaryons of Driftmark (a lesser house of Valyrian descent) to fill their coffers off the passing trade. Velaryon ships, along with those of another allied Valyrian house, the Celtigars of Claw Isle, dominated the middle reaches of the narrow sea, whilst the Targaryens ruled the skies with their dragons.
Yet even so, for the best part of a hundred years after the Doom of Valyria (the rightly named Century of Blood), House Targaryen looked east, not west, and took little interest in the affairs of Westeros. Gaemon Targaryen, brother and husband to Daenys the Dreamer, followed Aenar the Exile as Lord of Dragonstone, and became known as Gaemon the Glorious. Gaemon’s son Aegon and his daughter Elaena ruled together after his death. After them the lordship passed to their son Maegon, his brother Aerys, and Aerys’s sons, Aelyx, Baelon, and Daemion. The last of the three brothers was Daemion, whose son Aerion then succeeded to Dragonstone.
The Aegon who is known to history as Aegon the Conqueror and Aegon the Dragon was born on Dragonstone in 27 BC. He was the only son, and second child, of Aerion, Lord of Dragonstone, and Lady Valaena of House Velaryon, herself half-Targaryen on her mother’s side.
Aegon had two trueborn siblings; an elder sister, Visenya, and a younger sister, Rhaenys. It had long been the custom amongst the dragonlords of Valyria to wed brother to sister, to keep the bloodlines pure, but Aegon took both his sisters to bride. By tradition, he was expected to wed only his older sister, Visenya; the inclusion of Rhaenys as a second wife was unusual though not without precedent. It was said by some that Aegon wed Visenya out of duty and Rhaenys out of desire.
All three siblings had shown themselves to be dragonlords before they wed. Of the five dragons who had flown with Aenar the Exile from Valyria, only one survived to Aegon’s day: the great beast called Balerion, the Black Dread. The remaining two dragons — Vhagar and Meraxes — were younger, hatched on Dragonstone itself.
A common myth, oft heard amongst the ignorant, claims that Aegon Targaryen had never set foot upon the soil of Westeros until the day he set sail to conquer it, but this cannot be true. Years before that voyage, the Painted Table had been carved and decorated at Lord Aegon’s command: a massive slab of wood, some fifty feet long, carved in the shape of Westeros and painted to show all the woods and rivers and towns and castles of the Seven Kingdoms. Plainly, Aegon’s interest in Westeros long predated the events that drove him to war.  As well, there are reliable reports of Aegon and his sister Visenya visiting the Citadel of Oldtown in their youth, and hawking on the Arbor as guests of Lord Redwyne.  He may have visited Lannisport as well; accounts differ.
The Westeros of Aegon’s youth was divided into seven quarrelsome kingdoms, and there was hardly a time when two or three of these kingdoms were not at war with one another. The vast, cold, stony North was ruled by the Starks of Winterfell. In the deserts of Dorne, the Martell princes held sway.  The gold-rich westerlands were ruled by the Lannisters of Casterly Rock, the fertile Reach by the Gardeners of Highgarden.  The Vale, the Fingers, and the Mountains of the Moon belonged to House Arryn . . . but the most belligerent kings of Aegon’s time were the two whose realms lay closest to Dragonstone, Harren the Black and Argilac the Arrogant.
From their great citadel Storm’s End, the Storm Kings of House Durrandon had once ruled the eastern half of Westeros from Cape Wrath to the Bay of Crabs, but their power had been dwindling for centuries.  The Kings of the Reach had nibbled at their domains from the west, the Dornishmen harassed them from the south, and Harren the Black and his ironmen had pushed them from the Trident and the lands north of the Blackwater Rush. King Argilac, last of the Durrandon, had arrested this decline for a time, turning back a Dornish invasion whilst still a boy, crossing the narrow sea to join the great alliance against the imperialist “tigers” of Volantis, and slaying Garse VII Gardener, King of the Reach, in the Battle of Summerfield twenty years later. But Argilac had grown older; his famous mane of black hair had gone grey, and his prowess at arms had faded.
North of the Blackwater, the riverlands were ruled by the bloody hand of Harren the Black of House Hoare, King of the Isles and the Rivers. Harren’s ironborn grandsire, Harwyn Hardhand, had taken the Trident from Argilac’s grandsire, Arrec, whose own forebears had thrown down the last of the river kings centuries earlier.  Harren’s father had extended his domains east to Duskendale and Rosby.  Harren himself had devoted most of his long reign, close on forty years, to building a gigantic castle beside the Gods Eye, but with Harrenhal at last nearing completion, the ironborn were soon free to seek fresh conquests.
No king in Westeros was more feared than Black Harren, whose cruelty had become legendary all through the Seven Kingdoms.  And no king in Westeros felt more threatened than Argilac the Storm King, last of the Durrandon — an aging warrior whose only heir was his maiden daughter.  Thus it was that King Argilac reached out to the Targaryens on Dragonstone, offering Lord Aegon his daughter in marriage, with all the lands east of the Gods Eye from the Trident to the Blackwater Rush as her dowry.
Aegon Targaryen spurned the Storm King’s proposal. He had two wives, he pointed out; he did not need a third. And the dower lands being offered had belonged to Harrenhal for more than a generation. They were not Argilac’s to give. Plainly, the aging Storm King meant to establish the Targaryens along the Blackwater as a buffer between his own lands and those of Harren the Black.
The Lord of Dragonstone countered with an offer of his own. He would take the dower lands being offered if Argilac would also cede Massey’s Hook and the woods and plains from the Blackwater south to the river Wendwater and the headwaters of the Mander.  The pact would be sealed by the marriage of King Argilac’s daughter to Orys Baratheon, Lord Aegon’s childhood friend and champion.
These terms Argilac the Arrogant rejected angrily. Orys Baratheon was a baseborn half brother to Lord Aegon, it was whispered, and the Storm King would not dishonor his daughter by giving her hand to a bastard.  The very suggestion enraged him. Argilac had the hands of Aegon’s envoy cut off and returned to Dragonstone in a box. “These are the only hands your bastard shall have of me,” he wrote.
Aegon made no reply. Instead he summoned his friends, bannermen, and principal allies to attend him on Dragonstone. Their numbers were small. The Velaryons on Driftmark were sworn to House Targaryen, as were the Celtigars of Claw Isle. From Massey’s Hook came Lord Bar Emmon of Sharp Point and Lord Massey of Stonedance, both sworn to Storm’s End, but with closer ties to Dragonstone. Lord Aegon and his sisters took counsel with them and visited the castle sept to pray to the Seven of Westeros as well though he had never before been accounted a pious man.
On the seventh day, a cloud of ravens burst from the towers of Dragonstone to bring Lord Aegon’s word to the Seven Kingdoms of Westeros. To the seven kings they flew, to the Citadel of Oldtown, to lords both great and small. All carried the same message: from this day forth there would be but one king in Westeros. Those who bent the knee to Aegon of House Targaryen would keep their lands and titles. Those who took up arms against him would be thrown down, humbled, and destroyed.
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Re: The Untold History of Westeros and the Game of Thrones

Počalji od Dimeks taj Sub 17 Maj 2014, 19:22

Није фанмејд, званично је Very Happy Дискутовали смо о књизи на оној теми о одломку из Ветрова.
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Re: The Untold History of Westeros and the Game of Thrones

Počalji od Nocnoi_Dozor taj Sub 17 Maj 2014, 22:10

Nadam se da će ovo objaviti kod nas jer se vredi imati na polici u biblioteci.
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Re: The Untold History of Westeros and the Game of Thrones

Počalji od Gost taj Ned 18 Maj 2014, 00:19

Dimeks ne ulazim na tu temu tako da ne znam Very Happy  Na nekim sajtovima pise da cover tek treba da izadje, pa sam zato to napisala, ali sad vidim da je to taj na amazonu...

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Počalji od Zevs86 taj Ned 18 Maj 2014, 09:46

@Tresnja Izgleda MOCNO! Very Happy Obavezno cu kupiti, pa koliko kosta da kosta Very Happy

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Počalji od White Rabbit taj Pon 19 Maj 2014, 18:32

Loodilo!
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Počalji od Oberin Martel taj Čet 05 Jun 2014, 01:56

Koš jedan odlomak, prepričan, Lanisteri ovaj put:
http://www.historyofwesteros.com/concarolinas-westerlands-reading/

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Počalji od Gost taj Pet 11 Jul 2014, 21:12

Ja kada diplomiram za koji mesec, najvise pola godine casticu se znate vec cime Very Happy  Do tada ce knjiga biti izdana i videcu otprilike na sta to lici u celini pa ako i dalje budem zelela mmm  Embarassed

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Počalji od CRNIJASTREB taj Pon 27 Okt 2014, 21:27

kako on nas loži i pali čovjek nam svu svoju profesiju kani naplatiti, a prava stvar nikako ds izađe...
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Počalji od Oberin Martel taj Uto 28 Okt 2014, 09:01

Kod:
https://kickass.to/the-world-of-ice-fire-the-untold-history-of-westeros-and-the-game-of-thrones-by-george-r-r-martin-non-retail-t9763312.html
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Počalji od Zevs86 taj Uto 28 Okt 2014, 10:04

@Oberin Sta je to? Ne deluje bas kao ono sto je reklamirano, zar ne? Nema slika uopste...

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Počalji od Blacko taj Uto 28 Okt 2014, 10:43

AKo moze neko da mi kaze kojim programom da otvaram knjigu sto nije u pdf formatu?
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Počalji od Oberin Martel taj Uto 28 Okt 2014, 10:58

@Zevs: Ovaj drugi torent ima slike.
@Blacko: Epub fajlove možeš da otvoriš npr. sa Mobipocket readerom ili Epub ekstenzijom za Firefox.

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Počalji od CRNIJASTREB taj Uto 28 Okt 2014, 13:43

@blacko epub ima dosta aplikacija. ja ti preporučujem FBReader sjajan je, takođe može i Prestigio... imaš ih ma google.play
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Počalji od DjokaBA taj Sre 05 Nov 2014, 15:32

Kad bi ova knjiga trebala kod nas da izadje ? Da li ce uopste i izlaziti ? Nigde nisam nasao tu informaciju, a bas bih voleo da je imam u kolekciji, vredi svaku paru. 
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Počalji od Oberin Martel taj Sre 05 Nov 2014, 15:53

Sumnjam da će Laguna propustiti priliku da dodatno unovči popularnost knjiga i serije, ali priprema izdanja će svakako da potraje, bar pola godine. Mada nikakvih najava za sada nema.

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Počalji od Sparkling Comet taj Sre 05 Nov 2014, 18:20

@Oberin Martel ::Sumnjam da će Laguna propustiti priliku da dodatno unovči popularnost knjiga i serije, ali priprema izdanja će svakako da potraje, bar pola godine. Mada nikakvih najava za sada nema.

Laguna je na svojoj FB stranici rekla poslije Nove godine. Very Happy
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Počalji od Gost taj Sre 05 Nov 2014, 18:22

Porucite sa Book Depository, postarina je besplatna Smile

edit: OMG cena je tamo sad 80 evra, wtf! :O  Trebala sam da preordujem dok je bilo samo 32 evra, sada je gotovo, ne planiram da dam tolike pare -_-

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Počalji od Zevs86 taj Sre 05 Nov 2014, 18:25

Za sad sam veoma zadovoljan knjigom! Very Happy Skroz, skroz i skroz! Very Happy Novi detalji me bas odusevljavaju! Very Happy

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Re: The Untold History of Westeros and the Game of Thrones

Počalji od Oberin Martel taj Sre 05 Nov 2014, 19:01

Meni su za sada pomešani utisci, ima i zanimljivih i dosadnih delića, što pretpostavljam da je posledica toga što su pisali zajedno odličan pisac i entuzijastični amateri. Mada je moja glavna zamerka suštinska, ista kao i na prethodne dve Targ novele, format meštarskog pisanija je najgori izbor. Takav pristup s jedne strane nema nikakvu literarnu vrednost, a sa druge strane nije ni adekvatan info dump jer je opterećen nepouzdanom naracijom i trapavim izbegavanjem informacija relevantnih za glavni serijal. Više bih voleo neku zbirku priča napisanu uz Martinovo mentorstvo i blagoslov, ili nekakvu enciklopediju koja će nam dati objektivne, tačne informacije (i koja naravno zahteva da se prvo završi serijal).

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Re: The Untold History of Westeros and the Game of Thrones

Počalji od Zevs86 taj Čet 06 Nov 2014, 09:20

@Oberin O koje 2 novele pricas?

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Re: The Untold History of Westeros and the Game of Thrones

Počalji od DjokaBA taj Čet 06 Nov 2014, 13:03

Ma ceka se Lagunino izdanje. 

Oberine, o kojim novelama pricas ? 
Sta sve ima na ovu temu, osim Danka i Jajeta ?
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Re: The Untold History of Westeros and the Game of Thrones

Počalji od Oberin Martel taj Čet 06 Nov 2014, 17:48

"The Princess and the Queen" i "The Rogue Prince", imaju teme ovde na podforumu.

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