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Re: A Dance With Dragons - vaši dojmovi !!!SPOJLERI!!!!
Pa naravno, tamo je u manastiru, kopa grobove, postao Zombi na drugi način
Re: A Dance With Dragons - vaši dojmovi !!!SPOJLERI!!!!
Zamisli, uspe u borbi da mu skine kacigu(Planini)... kad ono nema glave
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Re: A Dance With Dragons - vaši dojmovi !!!SPOJLERI!!!!
Hm meni to nije palo na pamet, ali je dosta logicno. Da li Vera ima boljeg borca od Pseta?
A ne znas sta je stvarno u tom oklopu, ne mora samo da bude zakrpljeni Gregor. Kiburn je mogao da sklepa ko zna sta
A ne znas sta je stvarno u tom oklopu, ne mora samo da bude zakrpljeni Gregor. Kiburn je mogao da sklepa ko zna sta
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Re: A Dance With Dragons - vaši dojmovi !!!SPOJLERI!!!!
Pre ce biti da je Planina Frankenstajn nego zombi
Re: A Dance With Dragons - vaši dojmovi !!!SPOJLERI!!!!
Ja jedino znam za Pseta i Lansela. Prema tome... bice Pseto Jel bese se videlo da je ona lobanja sto stigla u Dornu, zaista Planinina lobanja?
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Re: A Dance With Dragons - vaši dojmovi !!!SPOJLERI!!!!
Meni se čini da je to abnormalno velika glava nekog patuljka, koju su doneli umesto glave Tiriona
Re: A Dance With Dragons - vaši dojmovi !!!SPOJLERI!!!!
Ma ona lobanja sto su poslali Doranu Martelu kao znak dobre volje posto on zeli da se osveti za smrt svoje sestre i rekli da je to Planinina lobanjavojalu ::Meni se čini da je to abnormalno velika glava nekog patuljka, koju su doneli umesto glave Tiriona
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Re: A Dance With Dragons - vaši dojmovi !!!SPOJLERI!!!!
Prince Regar ::Ma ona lobanja sto su poslali Doranu Martelu kao znak dobre volje posto on zeli da se osveti za smrt svoje sestre i rekli da je to Planinina lobanjavojalu ::Meni se čini da je to abnormalno velika glava nekog patuljka, koju su doneli umesto glave Tiriona
Pa da poslali su mu verovatno tu veliku glavu što su u jednom trenutku neki tamo paori doneli Sersej i rekli da je Tirionova, a ona glavu dala Kiburnu
Re: A Dance With Dragons - vaši dojmovi !!!SPOJLERI!!!!
Ja se tpga ne secam, jel to bilo u knjizi, ili pretpostavljas? Mada moze biti....
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Re: A Dance With Dragons - vaši dojmovi !!!SPOJLERI!!!!
Prince Regar ::Ja se tpga ne secam, jel to bilo u knjizi, ili pretpostavljas? Mada moze biti....
Bilo, bilo lepo se secam
Re: A Dance With Dragons - vaši dojmovi !!!SPOJLERI!!!!
Glumac92 ::Slazem se, neke stvari su sacuvane ali nije postojalo nista slicno ovome sto mi sad zovemo pravila rata. U ranom srednjem veku u zapadnoj Evropi je postojalo pravilo da samo vitezovi smeju da ubijaju i zarobljavaju druge vitezove, a da boranija mora da se drzi po strani. Cak uopste nije bio obicaj da se vitez ubije u borbi, uvek se zarobljavao za otkup. Sve dok se Englezi nisu dosetili da je to cista glupost i poceli da obucavaju seljake kako da skidaju vitezove s konja i da ih ubijaju.
Da ovo ne bi bilo offtopic moram da kazem da su se lordovi opravdano pobunili protiv Erisa, ali nisu morali da krenu da istrebljuju Targarjene, logicnije bi bilo da su nasli nacin da Regara "poguraju" do prestola
Kad vec spamate, da i ja dam jedan offtopik post
Potpuno je tacno ovo sto kaze Glumac. U jednoj bitci kada su francuzki vitezove engleske pesake oterali do samog mora, ovi nemajuci kud su primenili upravo to, obarali su vitezove sa konja i potom ih tako bespomocne ubijali. Sto je do tada bilo nezamislivo.
Pravila rata inace pocinju da se kodifikuju Zenevskim konvencijama. U srednjem veku ih nije bilo. Postojali su neki obicaji, ali su bili razliciti svuda. U anticko doba su naravno takodje postojala pravila, ali isto na nivou obicaja, koja su vrlo lako i bez posledica krsena.
Re: A Dance With Dragons - vaši dojmovi !!!SPOJLERI!!!!
Pa i obicaji su pravila. imas i u devetnaestom veku konvencije....
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Re: A Dance With Dragons - vaši dojmovi !!!SPOJLERI!!!!
Znam. Ali pravila za koja cesto nije zaprecena sankcija. I pravila koja su cesto razlicita u zavisnosti od podrucja.
Znam, ucio sam MJP za januarski rok
Znam, ucio sam MJP za januarski rok
Re: A Dance With Dragons - vaši dojmovi !!!SPOJLERI!!!!
Otkud vam to za Pseto da je živ i da je u Veri?
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Re: A Dance With Dragons - vaši dojmovi !!!SPOJLERI!!!!
To mi spekulisemo. Onaj svestenik uporno govori da je Pseto umro a ne Sendor. Kao da na neki nacin zeli da kaze da je preminula njegova mracna strana licnosti,,, Mada bi se lepo uklopilo, ta nasa spekulacija
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Re: A Dance With Dragons - vaši dojmovi !!!SPOJLERI!!!!
Ja bih volio da ste vi u pravu ali se bojim da niste. On mi je bio dragi lik.
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Re: A Dance With Dragons - vaši dojmovi !!!SPOJLERI!!!!
Kapetanili ::Ja bih volio da ste vi u pravu ali se bojim da niste. On mi je bio dragi lik.
Ovo je odlomak iz Gozbe za vrane, Brijena dolazi u manastir sa Meribaldom:
- Spojler:
- They passed a dozen brothers of the order on their way up; cowled men in dun-and-brown ..., and higher still they passed a lichyard where a brother bigger than Brienne was struggling to dig a grave. From the way he moved, it was plain to see that he was lame. As he flung a spadeful of the stony soil over one shoulder, some chanced to spatter against their feet. “Be more watchful there,” chided Brother Narbert. “Septon Meribald might have gotten a mouthful of dirt.” The gravedigger lowered his head. When Dog went to sniff him he dropped his spade and scratched his ear.
“A novice,” explained Narbert.
Dakle ovo bi mogao biti Sandor zar ne, Pseto je verovatno umrlo u njemu. Viši od Brijene, hramlje (beše ranjen u nogu), mazi psa koji se zove Pas. A mozda nas Martin samo zeza to uopšte nije isljkučeno.
Re: A Dance With Dragons - vaši dojmovi !!!SPOJLERI!!!!
E vidis ja to nisam primetio. Odn tog visokog lika koji kopa raku.... Ja sam jos odavno procitao na wikiju da moze biti da je ziv, zato sto taj svestenik govori o Psetu a ne o Sendoru.
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Re: A Dance With Dragons - vaši dojmovi !!!SPOJLERI!!!!
Ja se sjećam tog dijela. Ima logike.
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Re: A Dance With Dragons - vaši dojmovi !!!SPOJLERI!!!!
A valja sagledati i mogućnost koja se otvara,Robert Strong će se boriti za Sersei a Vjeri će takođe trebati medgandžija - Sendor kao iskušenik...!!
To može da bude dobro i da Pseto dobije priliku da se osveti bratu.
To može da bude dobro i da Pseto dobije priliku da se osveti bratu.
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Re: A Dance With Dragons - vaši dojmovi !!!SPOJLERI!!!!
Ta scena sa ogromnim iskusenikom koji hramlje je jedini pokazatelj da je Sendor ziv. To mi nije palo na pamet pri prvom citanju, ali drugi put sam bas obratio paznju na to.
Hahaha Pseto u mantiji, mos' misliti
Hahaha Pseto u mantiji, mos' misliti
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Re: A Dance With Dragons - vaši dojmovi !!!SPOJLERI!!!!
I meni je to palo na pamet kada sam citao. Ali mi se nije uklopilo, ni hronoloski, a ni time sto svestenici Sedmoro ne mogu da vracaju iz mrtvih. Jedino da ga je nasao na samrti i nekako izlecio. Sto je opet tesko, jer je onaj Dobrojeb uzeo kacigu iz njegovog groba. Jedino da ga je izlecio, a sahranio nekog drugog.
Re: A Dance With Dragons - vaši dojmovi !!!SPOJLERI!!!!
Neko je ovdje napisao da je Pseto bio ranjen u nogu. Zar on nije bio ranjen negdje na glavi, kod uha, i Arja mu previjala ranu?
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Re: A Dance With Dragons - vaši dojmovi !!!SPOJLERI!!!!
Kapetanili ::Neko je ovdje napisao da je Pseto bio ranjen u nogu. Zar on nije bio ranjen negdje na glavi, kod uha, i Arja mu previjala ranu?
The Storm of Swords, Arya chapter 74: His face had bled the worst, but it was the wound on his thigh that smelled funny to her.
Evo i dela gde se opisuje da je Pseto umrlo. Septon kaže da je sahranio Pseta tako što je nabacao hrpu kamenja i na tu hrpu stavio njegovu kacigu da označi grob. Dobrojeb je uzeo kacigu sa hrpe kamenja, a ne iz groba. Kad Brijena konstatuje da je Sandor mtrav, septon kaže: "He is at rest", a zatim septon priča kako je on nekad bio vitez, pa je umro i probudio se tu, na Tihom ostrvu. Brijena je zbunjena zašto joj to priča.
I ja sam bio zbunjen, postoji mogućnost i to ne mala da je Sandor živ, a opet možda nas Martin navodi na stranputicu ko će ga znati
- Spojler:
“I buried him myself. I can tell you where his grave lies, if you wish. I covered him with stones to keep the carrion eaters from digging up his flesh, and set his helm atop the cairn to mark his final resting place. That was a grievous error. Some other wayfarer found my marker and claimed it for himself.....
“You sound as if you pity him,” said Brienne.
“I did. You would have pitied him as well, if you had seen him at the end. I came upon him by the Trident, drawn by his cries of pain. He begged me for the gift of mercy, but I am sworn not to kill again. Instead, I bathed his fevered brow with river water, and gave him wine to drink and a poultice for his wound, but my efforts were too little and too late. The Hound died there, in my arms. You may have seen a big black stallion in our stables. That was his warhorse, Stranger. A blasphemous name. We prefer to call him Driftwood, as he was found beside the river. I fear he has his former master’s nature.”
The horse. She had seen the stallion, had heard it kicking, but she had not understood. Destriers were trained to kick and bite. In war they were a weapon, like the men who rode them. Like the Hound. “It is true, then,” she said dully. “Sandor Clegane is dead.”
“He is at rest.” The Elder Brother paused. “You are young, child. I have counted four-and-forty name days . . . which makes me more than twice your age, I think. Would it surprise you to learn that I was once a knight?”
“No. You look more like a knight than you do a holy man.” It was written in his chest and shoulders, and across that thick square jaw. “Why would you give up knighthood?”
“I never chose it. My father was a knight, and his before him. So were my brothers, every one. I was trained for battle since the day they deemed me old enough to hold a wooden sword. I saw my share of them, and did not disgrace myself. I had women too, and there I did disgrace myself, for some I took by force. There was a girl I wished to marry, the younger daughter of a petty lord, but I was my father’s thirdborn son and had neither land nor wealth to offer her . . . only a sword, a horse, a shield. All in all, I was a sad man. When I was not fighting, I was drunk. My life was writ in red, in blood and wine.”
“When did it change?” asked Brienne.
“When I died in the Battle of the Trident. I fought for Prince Rhaegar, though he never knew my name. I could not tell you why, save that the lord I served served a lord who served a lord who had decided to support the dragon rather than the stag. Had he decided elsewise, I might have been on the other side of the river. The battle was a bloody thing. The singers would have us believe it was all Rhaegar and Robert struggling in the stream for a woman both of them claimed to love, but I assure you, other men were fighting too, and I was one. I took an arrow through the thigh and another through the foot, and my horse was killed from under me, yet I fought on. I can still remember how desperate I was to find another horse, for I had no coin to buy one, and without a horse I would no longer be a knight. That was all that I was thinking of, if truth be told. I never saw the blow that felled me. I heard hooves behind my back and thought, a horse! but before I could turn something slammed into my head and knocked me back into the river, where by rights I should have drowned.
“Instead I woke here, upon the Quiet Isle. The Elder Brother told me I had washed up on the tide, naked as my name day. I can only think that someone found me in the shallows, stripped me of my armor, boots, and breeches, and pushed me back out into the deeper water. The river did the rest. We are all born naked, so I suppose it was only fitting that I come into my second life the same way. I spent the next ten years in silence.”
“I see.” Brienne did not know why he was telling her all of this, or what else she ought to say.
Re: A Dance With Dragons - vaši dojmovi !!!SPOJLERI!!!!
Dobrojeb? Otkud to ime, zar se lik ne zove Rordz?
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